Barbie

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I must say that I was facinated by last night presentation on Barbie.  I knew about Barbie and I did own a couple of Barbies when I was a child but I must say that I was quite shock on the way Barbie was being over analyzed. 

My question to many of you is:  Why is Barbie not permitted to be perfect or stereotyping?  Is it really wrong to let young children play with Barbie and to allow them to be part of a fantasy world? 

When I was a child I did play with Barbies and did it make me insecure? No

Was Barbie detrimental to my self esteem? No

Did I become sexist, jugemental or always striving for perfection? No

Am I racist because no black Barbies existed? No

Why is it that in today's society we must always criticize and over analyze everything? I really dont think that way! Very often I really feel that companies or manufacturers dont stand a chance for any product they put on the market.  If you dont feel that the product is appropriate you have the choice of not buying it? but can you really control the others on their choices?  I am sure that if someone was always telling you what to buy, say or think you would really resent it.

In the end, I believe that Barbie should not only be seen as a negative influence.  Barbie does have a lot of good qualities and she has done great things for me during my childhood!  I will make sure that my children are familiar with Barbie when they grow up!

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Thank you koreilly. I have been thinking about the Barbie presentation and I keep asking my self why is it wrong for girls to want to be princesses? Why is it wrong for a girl to like the color pink? I still love pink!!!! Growing up, not only did I play with Barbies, but I had an easy bake oven. For those of you who don’t know what at an easy bake oven is it is a light-bulb oven that lets you whip up lots of sweet snacks. Just because I had an oven and loved making food, does that mean my parents were preparing me for the role of a good housewife. Absolutely not. I come from a family of very independent working women. I have been instilled with strong values. I was the one who wanted this oven and I am thankful that my parents did not deny it. After listening to the Barbie presentation I feel some people might deprive their children from certain toys because they are too stereotypical, but you should not. As long as you educate your children along the way your girls will grow up just fine. I did.
Shirley Steinberg's picture

Barbie talk

The point of the presentation is that it is an example of media literacy...how to deconstruct objects of corporate promotion.  Barbie is a doll prepared by a large organization with political and financial agendas.  There was no attempt to "offend" those who like Barbie, but to nudge us to think critically and to learn to dissect--that is the purpose of the entire course.

We are not setting up cultural icons to tear down and diss them, but to be informed about our own society.

Barbie

Shirley, I did not find this article offensive.  I think a lot of us had Barbie dolls when we were growing up.  Barbie was perfect in every way, her hair, her figure, her image and just about everything about her.  When I was growing up I did not question the fact that this perfect doll was white, it wasn't until I got older and began to see black dolls did I realize that when I was growing up a black barbie was not seen anywhere.  I knew that there was a lot of hype about Barbie, but I didn't care, she was just a doll to play with.  The fact that no black barbies existed became a racial issue to me.  I wondered why everything that was preceived as perfect and good was always white.  I felt like media, big-business and coporate America was sending a not so hidden message to black children and the message is and was that if you are black get back and if you are white you are right.  The whole Barbie ordeal did cause me to think critcially and come to the realization that the message that white American wanted black children to accept and accept as real to them is the fact that if you are black then you are not beautiful or popular.  Well today I have seen black barbies in color only because the look of the barbie is still white.  Imagine that.  In today's society we must be objective and analyze everything to see if any good thing can be found in it.  I know I have a choice as to whether or not I buy a product but it doesn't change the fact that racism exist across all areas of this life even in the toy industry.  The truth doesn't need any proof.  It is what it is.  Please blacks are not on the plantation, we can think if we want to. If we don't think you say we are lazy, if we think you say we are being over sensitive.  Barbie was designed for an all American white image. True confession is good for the soul.  Barbie represents what the mind-set of many white Americans believe and that is most of the products that are marketed by big corporations are for whites or the assimilation of whites.

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Barbie-o-rama

I think there's a very strong question in all this: are we ok? Sure I grew up with and loved my G.I. Joe and I'm not a raging maniacal serial killer, but maybe I don't mind what's going on in Iraq and Sudan and the streets of our own cities as much as I might if I had, say, grown up in a monestary in Nepal. 

But back to Barbie: I've got two girls. One was taught to hate Barbie. And she does. This is part of her character now. You couldn't tell her that it wasn't her idea that she doesn't like Barbie. But it was. Our other girl, typical second child, escaped our Draconian parenting techniques, fell under the influence of her peer group, and loves Barbie.  Both kids were taught whether to like or not like Barbie by their environment.  And you were taught whether to like Barbie or not by your environment. Be it parents, peers or the media.

Is Barbie good? Is Barbie evil? Of course, like my two kids, she's neither. We all hang in the balance. Humans are unfinished. But does Barbie carry with her a whole load of cultural information to be unpacked? Absolutely. Can we think critically about what she represents? Most definitely.

To not want to do so strikes me to be exactly the sort of thing to investigate. Heck, even my 4 year old can engage in a debate about what's wrong with wanting to be a princess.

Barbie

Interesting how a presentation can invoke such critical debate.  We by no means meant to offend those who like Barbie.   If you recall, in our presentation, I said that I had 15 Barbies and played with them from the age of 7-12.  Perhaps my voice was not as strong as my colleagues but I did enjoy playing with them and was glad at the time that no one destroyed my wonderful adventures and my profound imagination and enjoyment of these dolls.  If I had had a little girl, she herself no doubt would have had several Barbies to play with (if she wanted to) as well.  I never aspired to look like her, nor did I see her as someone I ever had to emulate in terms of her fancy sports cars, her line of outfits  or the careers she held.  It is only through taking on the topic of Barbie and reading Shirley’s article and others, that I began to look at Barbie in a more critical way.  Perhaps it wasn’t so much Barbie as Mattel themselves and the way they sell Barbie.  Despite their declining retail, they have managed to have their sales of Barbie creep back up by avenues I feel have been rather greedy or at least questionable.   As seen for example, in Mattel’s court battle over the Bratz dolls (dolls featured multi-ethnic looks, skimpy clothes and an urban attitude).  Mattel (large corporate giant) took on MGA Entertainment (a private enterprise, owned by Isaac Larian, an entrepreneur from Iran; somewhat unfamiliar with the intricacies of business legalities),  not only grabbed hundreds of millions back in royalties but have also vowed to have ownership of the superhot Bratz dolls.  Toymaker Larian (MGA Entertainment) may have lost control of the Bratz dolls but is once again taking on  Mattel's Barbie with two new dolls aimed squarely at Mattel's Barbie business. 

 

 

 

Barbie

 

Our presentation aimed at examining Barbie and what she represents. Clearly, I was a ‘tom boy’ when I was younger who did not like Barbies, this is not to say that Barbie’s are bad. I also had pink walls with rainbow wallpaper which I loved too. In fact, as you mentioned, talking about Barbie and what she represents is a great way of educating our children. 
Now, in response to the criticisms presented. According to the article written by Shirley, Barbie sets the standard against which all others are measured. What happens if you do not fall within this category? What happens when you are considered ‘Other’? Barbie’s normalcy makes all others who are not so-called “Normal” feel out of place. Of course, as a child we may not recognize the immediate influences but our culture, family, toys, etc… all play a role in distinguishing who we are, whether this is known or in the subconscious. In addition, many children who play with Barbie don’t look at her other than as a toy but I have a hard time believing over the course of many years of playing with Barbie that the child does not want to have nice hair like Barbie, or be slim like Barbie. This may not affect one’s self-esteem if it is being met in another area. However, what happens if the child has little to look up to in life and compares themselves to Barbie? I think an important component in growing as an individual is having the experience of being the ‘Other’.   Without this direct experience it is pretty difficult to understand or to even empathize with them. 

more on Barbie...

 

Interesting discussion…here are my two cents. I think it is important for people to be critical of things that are so ingrained in our culture such as Barbie because it causes us to question the possible impacts that such things have in our lives. I think we can all agree that it is fine for people and children to like Barbie, however if we don’t look at Barbie with somewhat of a critical lens we may inadvertently be affected by ideas and images that we don’t necessarily agree with. For example, as was mentioned in the presentation, Barbie horribly distorts historical facts, promotes consumerism, and misrepresents minority groups. Unfortunately most people don’t really think twice about these issues because they figure that Barbie is just a toy for kids to play with, however if parents looked at Barbie critically they may question whether or not they want their children playing with such a toy.
 
This kind of reminds me of an activity I did in one of my ethics classes. I played clips from a couple of Disney movies and asked the students if they noticed any images or ideas that may be inappropriate in these films. Surely enough, they noticed quite a few images and ideas that they felt were not suitable for a film intended for children. Most if not all of these students never noticed these images when the first saw these films as children but now they seem quite apparent to them.
 
I think the best way to approach these types of issues is through dialogue. If children love Barbie, or the Little Mermaid, or whatever, parents should make an effort to talk to their children about some of the problematic elements in these things to avoid any possible negative impacts that they may have.
 
 
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Disney and more...

Naved,

I'd be interested to know what clips you showed your students. With Remembrance Day coming up, I decided to show my students a clip from a short Disney film created in 1943, “Education for Death.” You can watch it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQqCeEG5hs0

We talked about the use of stereotypes in this film and the intended messages in light of the context. The students were actually shocked by the video and couldn’t believe that the same beloved Disney from their childhood would produce such a film. We got on the topic of messages in more modern Disney films. I’m just wondering if the ideas you brought up with your students were similar to those we discussed in class. 
It also reminded me of our viewing of the first episode of Sesame Street, especially the disclaimer at the beginning. For nostalgic purposes only! It shows how goals and messages are greatly affected by the context in which they appear.
I think it is important to be critical of what we expose young children to. But, we all grew up loving Barbie, Disney, G.I. Joe, Transformers...and we all turned okay (or at least most of us did!) I would find it difficult to talk to my young child about the problems in Disney movies, or the issues that come up with dolls like Barbie or Bratz. If my parents had told me that Barbie was an unrealistic idealization of women that promotes consumerism and misrepresents minority groups, I don’t think my childhood experiences would have been the same. Of course, you wouldn’t say it that way, but how would you say it without taking away from the experience of being an innocent child? We have to be careful in addressing these issues so that we give our children the right information in a way that stills allows them to enjoy the times when they don’t have to be critical of everything. 

Disney films

I showed clips from the Little Mermaid and the Lion King. The issues that came up from these clips were stereotypes of different cultural groups and issues related to male hegemony etc. similar to our class discussions.

Plastic Fantasy

I loved Barbie and remember having one Barbie doll and one Skipper. We did not have much money and so furniture was made with paper towel rolls, Kleenex boxes and any paper we could get our hands on.   I can still remember about 35 years ago when my mother brought home a yellow coat with fur around the collar for Barbie.  She was now glamorously dressed for a Canadian winter.

The presentation made me reflect on my childhood and my own children's toys.  Interestingly, my daughters and nieces had divorced Barbies, those with one arm or leg who were handicapped and career Barbies (dressed in Ken clothes - sterotypical). 
I started thinking about these questions:
Would children play with unattractive, wrinkly old Barbies? Do we want realism to completely surround our children? Can we keep children living in fantasy for a while?  Do we want total reality infused into their young minds so early in life? 
The analogy of Barbie with soaps came to mind.  Beauty is slim and white and blond.  Male beauty is rugged and built and has a name like Chandler, Dimitri or Anton.  It kept us watching.  It kept us dreaming....
Brainwashing or simple fantasy for entertainment? 
There is a time and a place for everything.  I think childhood can be reserved for magic and fantasy.  As little minds mature, critical analysis can be introduced.
 
Marisol Rodriguez's picture

Plastic Fantacy Innocence?

 

I loved Barbie too. In my country (Guatemala) we could not have as many Barbies as you could have in North America. In Guatemala there are very defined social stratus, and the “folkloric dolls” found not a market in the country precisely because people wanted to dream about being like the foreign Barbie, not like the “folkloric” ones. Nobody wanted to play with one of those dolls because they were considered of lower status while playing. I remember seeing children playing Barbies and the girl who accepted to play with a “folkloric” doll had another “Caucasian” kind of Barbie, and the “folkloric” doll was the servant of the others. The children were imitating what they were observing in their society.
Toys can be powerful tools to educate by modeling new behavior or by preserving the status quo. The plastic fantasy can be less innocent that what we would like to think about. What do you think?
 
 
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Mattel and other mega toy industries

 

I have a problem with mega industries like Mattel and the enormous power that they have. They manipulate and influence not only the market, by becoming one of the biggest monopolies in the toy industry but by trying to get a hold on other industries, like music, like the Barbie song that used to be a parody of the toy.
Is there a law to limit these monopolies? How far can they go?

The perfect Show, Doll, Etc

Very interesting discussion. . . I too played with Barbie, I don't find myself striving ot be perfect or like her, I don't find myself racist. . I think that that Barbie is similar to the way we discussed women in advertising.  If one doll was like this it would be one thing, but when this is all kids see it becomes problematic.  I loved dressing up my doll as much as I loved dressing up my cabbage patch.  It was lie a doll house. What I had the most difficulty with is what I asked in the last class. What would the perfect black barbie look like? If the hair was too kinky we would say that is sterotyping, not all Black people have kinky hair, they are forgetting about mixed marriages and those that have different hair, if we have straight ironed hair, than it is why do black people have to always have long hair and have wanna be white people straight hair. . it's as if there is never a politically correct answer to anything in media literacy.  It seems that if teh Bill Cosby show showed families in Harlem we would say look that's all their showing, and when they show a family that is working , we say that family is unrealistic. . What would be the perfect show, doll, etc that we could design after this course.  Can anyone tell me?

Jewish Barbie

Has anyone seen the short film, The Tribe? I think Shirley, you would enjoy this movie!  It basically is about the most successful doll -Barbie, and what it can teach us about being Jewish in today's world.   " The film mixes old school narration with a new school visual style and weaves together archival footage, graphics, animation, Barbie dioramas, and slam poetry to take audiences on an electric ride through the complex history of both the Barbie doll and the Jewish people- from Biblical times to present day. By tracing Barbie's history, the film sheds light on the questions: What does it mean to be an American Jew today? What does it mean to be a member of any tribe in the 21st Century?"

It is quite a cool movie that even comes with a classroom kit for discussion. I use it often in informal educational experiences for Jewish students on Jewish identity.  It is quite cool to see how this film uses Barbie as a medium to teach about the Jewish tribe. 

 

 

Shirley Steinberg's picture

the tribe

thanks for the heads up lisa, do you have it?  where did you see it?  s

Laura's picture

Barbie x Brats

I grew up in a small town in Argentina until I was nine and then I moved to another small town in Israel and so on... I do not recall ever seeing a Barbie, I do not recall my neighbors playing with them..I do not believe that they were widely available back then. In fact, I never owned a Barbie, I am 46 years old and I do not think I was aware of the existence of Barbies till I had kids, and I have boys, they haven’t asked me to buy them a Barbie yet. I remember though, in the later years, discussions on the effect of Barbie on young girls, specifically about her anatomy, the small waist, the long legs, etc. Funny enough, it always gets worst; Barbie seems fairly harmless if you compare them to the Brats. Brats are the main offenders today, and Brats are identified with the image of an anorexic young girl, with huge faces, small skinny bodies, heavy makeup, skimpy clothing, high heels, big lips, and even bigger eyes. In fact in 2008 the Brats story books were taken off the widely popular scholastic schools catalog, because they promote, quote," (Susan Linn, psychiatry instructor at Harvard Medical School and co-founder and director of the Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood coalition) “a highly sexualized and an impossible anorexic body image to very young girls”.. I believe Barbies are the McDonalds of toys, they’re huge, they’re everywhere, they even supersize themselves (accessories, cars, homes, etc) they went global before everyone else did. But again, I believe that is up to the consumer to think, identify and make a choice.

Darryl's picture

Barbie U

Barbie has taught me how to be a critical thinker...who'd a thunk it! Creating this presentation allowed me to break Barbie down and look deep into her plastic soul, beyond the disproportionate figure and the feet that don’t permit her to stand without shoes, through the haute couture fashion and the impossible array of professions. I saw what lies beneath, the real Barbie, the $$$ signs that blink in her painted eyes and pour through her imaginary veins with every contraction of her fictional heart.

Breaking Barbie gave me valuable insight into corporate media. I have never taken the time to properly deconstruct a cultural icon. Truthfully, I have never understood how to do it. No one in high school, CEGEP, or during my undergrad at McGill showed me the importance of looking beyond the façade of that which I consume. Nor did I feel a need to better understand why I consumed what I did.

I loved professional wrestling when I was a tot and I didn’t think that it was because it was funded by a multi million dollar enterprise (at the time it was multi million, WWE is now a multi billion dollar media conglomerate) that produced everything that was of interest to a boy my age, from TV shows, to lunchboxes, to pyjamas, to greeting cards, and so on. Nor did I realize that professional wrestling misrepresented virtually every culture on the planet (it still does). Examples being, The Iron Sheik, a brutal Irananian villain who hated all Americans, or The Junkyard Dog, an African American who came to the ring with a chain around his neck barking to protect his beloved trash dump, or Hulk Hogan, the blond haired, blue eyed, hero with perfectly tanned skin and an anthem that explained to everyone that he was “a real American”. I had no idea about any of the above, I was a naïve child who liked wrestling because my friends did and because I thought it was cool.

Have I learned that I should take the time to evaluate everything that goes on around me? Not everything but possibly a little bit more. What I have learned the most though, from Barbie my new BFF, is that education can do a lot more to teach children how to use critical thought and I can do the same!

 

advertising...

 
I have embarked on a journey to teach my grade six students how to be critical thinkers. Yes me, a Barbie lover and marketing major want my students to know how advertisers try to lure them in. As I began my first class on advertising I was wondering would my eleven year olds even know what advertisement meant? I started asking them questions such as why during certain shows certain commercials are shown? They actually had some really great responses. Than I decided our first advertising project would be to design cereal boxes. We went over why certain cereal boxes are placed on lower shelves. What’s the difference between kids’ cereal and adults? Etc. Eventually they began to create their own. PBS has a useful site where kids can go online and not only create their own cereal boxes but learn advertisers’ tricks.
ANYWAYS my point behind this blurb is last week while I was busy teaching my students about cereal box the news announced how certain cereal companies such as Kellogg’s were taking advantage of swine flu and stating on their cereal boxes that cereal X can actually increase one’s immunity. Now seriously how can anyone believe a cereal can increase your immunity? One of the cereals was Coco puffs.
 
http://www.xomba.com/cocoa_krispies_fights_swine_flu_kellogg_claims_cereal_helps_immune_system
 
 
I brought the news clip to my students’ attention which led to great conversations. One student wanted to know why Kellogg’s wasn’t being sued for false advertising. I said; Angelo, next week, you just gave me a great lesson plan for this class. As I begin planning this week lesson with Angelo’s question I am going to use magazine ads that make false promises but don’t get sued.

awsaf's picture

Barbie Tale

I never had a Barbie nor the good fortune to play with it. That privilege was for the 'very posh' who would spend their summer holidays abroad and then come back in the new term to show off their shopping. I remember distinctly stealing longing  glances at the fancy dollhouse and that divine beauty who lived in it, on school play days and the shame with which i'd hide my chubby celluloid doll behind me. It was agonising! I felt primitive, inferior. Not that i came from an unprivileged family, I was better off than 70% of the Pakistani population yet Barbie remained an unattainable luxury. 
If i ran into any of those Barbie girls today, after all these years, i would probably still be gripped with the same inferiority complex that haunted me in my school years.
I never really realised how much damage a plastic doll could do until i sat through the presentation the other day. It was very thought provoking and made me reminisce my childhood experiences... the fears and complexes. It got me thinking about the power that can be exercised by a mere toy. I wondered about the majority of the population, who would play with the traditional clay and cloth dolls?      
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  Would they too feel threatened by this western beauty or are they blissfully oblivious of the bashful plight plaguing the middle class kid. I also recalled being secretly relieved that I did not own one of these Punjabi dolls when i was invited to a 'doll wedding'  by a neighbours' kid. That would have been fatal for my reputation in school. I would have died of shame! My faithful celluloid worked for me... i remember being happy to settle for her instead after that invite!
It is interesting to note how Barbie has the power to touch the lives of kids all over the world,  be it by embedding notions of perfection or narrating culture/ history through a limited lens. One can not help but admit ...The bitch indeed does have everything!

awsaf's picture

Barbie Tale

I never had a Barbie nor the good fortune to play with it. That privilege was for the 'very posh' who would spend their summer holidays abroad and then come back in the new term to show off their shopping. I remember distinctly stealing longing  glances at the fancy dollhouse and that divine beauty who lived in it on play days in school and the shame with which i'd hide my chubby celluloid doll behind me was agonising! I felt primitive, inferior. Not that i came from an unprivileged family, I was better than 70% of the Pakistani population but Barbie remained an unattainable luxury. 
If i ran into any of those Barbie girls today, after all these years, i would probably still be gripped with the same inferiority complex that haunted me in my school years.
I never really realised how much damage a plastic doll could do until i sat through the presentation the other day. It was very thought provoking and made me reminisce my childhood experiences... the fears and complexes. It got me thinking about the power that can be exercised by a mere toy. I wondered about the majority of the population, who would play with the traditional clay and cloth dolls?      
 Would they too feel threatened by this western beauty or are they blissfully oblivious of the bashful plight plaguing the middle class kid. I also recalled being secretly relieved that I did not own one of these Punjabi dolls when i was invited to a 'doll wedding'  by a neighbours' kid. That would have been fatal for my reputation in school. I would have died of shame! My faithful celluloid worked for me... i remember being happy to settle for her instead after that invite!
It is interesting to note how Barbie has touched the lives of kids all over the world,  be it embedding notions of perfection or narrating culture/ history through a very limited lens, she has power! One can not help but admit ...The bitch indeed does have everything!

claireberger's picture

A Barbie Childhood

So confession is …I still have my Skipper , still dressed in her red velvet dress with matching coat ( with rabbit fur collar no less) tucked away in my desk. Worth anything ? Of course not, I cut her bangs one day when I was an aspiring hairdresser at age 8. So why is it that I have the very childlike “Barbie” younger sister and not the sexy older sister. I remember asking for it simply because of the outfit and because as was mentioned in class I knew that any other outfits would be hand sewn by my mother not store bought! Besides my best friend had eight Barbies and I was welcome to play with them whenever I was over. Did I strive to look like those perfect dolls ?  Absolutely not. Did I enjoy the hours of fantasy play with the dolls and my girlfriends ? Absolutely.  Is childhood a time for make believe and fantasy ? Of course and perhaps we should take into accountant that as much as adults we see this as manipulation and the big mega consumer plot, I think for  little girls it is just a time for imagination and fun.

Sexy Inc. Our Children Under Influence

We were talking the other day about how sex sells everything, how women are used as objects in the advertizing industry. In my opinion, adults do have the maturity and the tools to interpret the messages that are thrown at them, they are able to respond in one way or another, according to societal or personal standards. But what happens with our children? I feel they are pushed prematurely into adulthood, they are bombarded with sexual and sexist massages and images. How do you interpret an advertisement like ‘Never too young to be sexy’? What do 5-year-olds understand? It’s no longer just the clothes, it’s a whole attitude that’s shaping their identities, or, better said, that affects their identity.
One boy in second grade today was very angry because another boy behind him had pronounced the word ‘sex’. So I asked the daring boy what he wanted to say and he goes ‘I said sex but he’s the one doing it!’, at which point the other one started crying. So I had to take them outside of the classroom and talk to them. One of them had been taught, even shown on the computer, very explicitly, what sex is, the other one just knew it was a bad word. So, there you have it, two very different families/siblings teaching their kids different values, and probably dissimilar ways to approach the messages they get from the media. So I’m really wondering what the right age would be to teach children what sex is and what it means to be sexy.
If you’re interested in the subject, this is a great film about the ‘unhealthy culture surrounding our children’:  
http://www.nfb.ca/film/sexy_inc/
 
 

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