So there I was, in the well deck of a US Army "mike" boat, listening to two very conservative white men yell at a young Honduran man (who had just completed a course of study in elementary education) about how evil and costly illegal immigration, It was a non-stop torrent of yelling, hate seething from underneath the surface. One of the yellers later said it was how you had to deal with liberals. Nevermind, that nothing was accomplished other than the further Otherization of two groups of people. It was a miseranble three weeks of reserve duty, but there were interesting dynamics to be observed. No solutions.